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	<title>Comments on: Property Finder &#8211; the first HTML5-based Windows Phone 7 Application</title>
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		<title>By: Colin Eberhardt</title>
		<link>http://www.scottlogic.co.uk/blog/colin/2011/11/property-finder-the-first-html5-based-windows-phone-7-application/#comment-105414</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Eberhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 07:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John,

if you do not want to distribute your app via an app-store or marketplace, then yes, hosting it on a website is by far the easiest option. The only issue with this is if you need to use some capabilities of the phone that are not available via regular JavaScript APIs, the camera for example, where PhoneGap would provide you with a suitable API.

Have fun, Colin E.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>if you do not want to distribute your app via an app-store or marketplace, then yes, hosting it on a website is by far the easiest option. The only issue with this is if you need to use some capabilities of the phone that are not available via regular JavaScript APIs, the camera for example, where PhoneGap would provide you with a suitable API.</p>
<p>Have fun, Colin E.</p>
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		<title>By: John Cap</title>
		<link>http://www.scottlogic.co.uk/blog/colin/2011/11/property-finder-the-first-html5-based-windows-phone-7-application/#comment-105201</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quick question: If you&#039;re going to make an app out of HTML5 that really doesn&#039;t look like WP7 Metro and does little more than list some properties, why not just make a mobile webpage that does the same thing?  It makes it easier on users as well as development.  It is essentially what you&#039;re doing anyways it seems except that you&#039;re packaging your website into an installer.

However, I have to say that I tried most of the PhoneGap WP applications and yours is by far the best one.  I think the biggest limitations you have is not necessarily the HTML or javascript, but PhoneGap itself... which is why I&#039;ve decided never to use PhoneGap for mobile app development.  I think you did a great job overcoming the limitations of the platform you were using with this app you&#039;ve created.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick question: If you&#8217;re going to make an app out of HTML5 that really doesn&#8217;t look like WP7 Metro and does little more than list some properties, why not just make a mobile webpage that does the same thing?  It makes it easier on users as well as development.  It is essentially what you&#8217;re doing anyways it seems except that you&#8217;re packaging your website into an installer.</p>
<p>However, I have to say that I tried most of the PhoneGap WP applications and yours is by far the best one.  I think the biggest limitations you have is not necessarily the HTML or javascript, but PhoneGap itself&#8230; which is why I&#8217;ve decided never to use PhoneGap for mobile app development.  I think you did a great job overcoming the limitations of the platform you were using with this app you&#8217;ve created.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Eberhardt</title>
		<link>http://www.scottlogic.co.uk/blog/colin/2011/11/property-finder-the-first-html5-based-windows-phone-7-application/#comment-95588</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Eberhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HI Carl,

Thanks for clarifying, I haven&#039;t really noticed this myself - but I am pretty sure I know what the problem is. I recall reading that the developers of the HTML5 iPad application were finding the application was a little unresponsive. This is because the browser waits ~300ms before firing click events in order to support gestures and double-tap. To fix this problem they created FastClick, which is native code that handles clicks, immediately passing this on to the DOM elements. You can &lt;a href=&quot;http://assanka.net/content/tech/2011/08/26/fastclick-native-like-tapping-for-touch-apps/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read about it here&lt;/a&gt;.

It should be possible to use a similar approach for WP7.

I&#039;m afraid the responsiveness and gray-box highlight have not been fixed in PG 1.3, they are &#039;features&#039; of the WP7 platform - i.e. Microsoft needs to provide a fix.

Colin E.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Carl,</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying, I haven&#8217;t really noticed this myself &#8211; but I am pretty sure I know what the problem is. I recall reading that the developers of the HTML5 iPad application were finding the application was a little unresponsive. This is because the browser waits ~300ms before firing click events in order to support gestures and double-tap. To fix this problem they created FastClick, which is native code that handles clicks, immediately passing this on to the DOM elements. You can <a href="http://assanka.net/content/tech/2011/08/26/fastclick-native-like-tapping-for-touch-apps/" rel="nofollow">read about it here</a>.</p>
<p>It should be possible to use a similar approach for WP7.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid the responsiveness and gray-box highlight have not been fixed in PG 1.3, they are &#8216;features&#8217; of the WP7 platform &#8211; i.e. Microsoft needs to provide a fix.</p>
<p>Colin E.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.scottlogic.co.uk/blog/colin/2011/11/property-finder-the-first-html5-based-windows-phone-7-application/#comment-95586</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Colin,

I think that you are right about the grey box being the biggest problem.

The lag itself is not huge but is just before the grey box appears when clicking on any of the elements. It&#039;s most noticable on the appbar ellipsis, I guess this may be due to the animation that&#039;s in there?

Whenever the missus resurfaces from Christmas shopping I&#039;ll give it a try on the Omnia...

I know next to nothing about PhoneGap, just started looking at it yesterday, but I wonder if any of this has been improved in v1.3?

C]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Colin,</p>
<p>I think that you are right about the grey box being the biggest problem.</p>
<p>The lag itself is not huge but is just before the grey box appears when clicking on any of the elements. It&#8217;s most noticable on the appbar ellipsis, I guess this may be due to the animation that&#8217;s in there?</p>
<p>Whenever the missus resurfaces from Christmas shopping I&#8217;ll give it a try on the Omnia&#8230;</p>
<p>I know next to nothing about PhoneGap, just started looking at it yesterday, but I wonder if any of this has been improved in v1.3?</p>
<p>C</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Eberhardt</title>
		<link>http://www.scottlogic.co.uk/blog/colin/2011/11/property-finder-the-first-html5-based-windows-phone-7-application/#comment-95581</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Eberhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Carl, personally I think the biggest problem is the &#039;gray box&#039; effect. I have been bugging Microsoft about this one!

Where exactly are you experiencing a lag? Is it, for example, when you click on the about button, the time taken to show the About page? The app is quite responsive on my phone (HTC Trophy).

Slight envious of your Lumia!

Colin E.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carl, personally I think the biggest problem is the &#8216;gray box&#8217; effect. I have been bugging Microsoft about this one!</p>
<p>Where exactly are you experiencing a lag? Is it, for example, when you click on the about button, the time taken to show the About page? The app is quite responsive on my phone (HTC Trophy).</p>
<p>Slight envious of your Lumia!</p>
<p>Colin E.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that this is a great start, but I agree on the dog barking...

The main thing that unsettles me is the responsiveness of the appbar buttons, there is noticable lag and I&#039;m just not used to lag on a WP7 device! This is on my Lumia 800, I haven&#039;t looked at it on the Omnia.

Any ideas about where the delay comes from here?

C]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is a great start, but I agree on the dog barking&#8230;</p>
<p>The main thing that unsettles me is the responsiveness of the appbar buttons, there is noticable lag and I&#8217;m just not used to lag on a WP7 device! This is on my Lumia 800, I haven&#8217;t looked at it on the Omnia.</p>
<p>Any ideas about where the delay comes from here?</p>
<p>C</p>
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		<title>By: Property Finder – the first HTML5-based Windows Phone 7 Application</title>
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		<dc:creator>Property Finder – the first HTML5-based Windows Phone 7 Application</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Colin Eberhardt</title>
		<link>http://www.scottlogic.co.uk/blog/colin/2011/11/property-finder-the-first-html5-based-windows-phone-7-application/#comment-95354</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Eberhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 15:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree, some geolocation dead-code would probably fix the issue where the &#039;My Location&#039; button fails. I will give that a try in my next update.

I have &lt;a href=&quot;https://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-wp7/issues/40&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;submitted an issue with PhoneGap&lt;/a&gt;, long-term I think the only viable solution is for them to split up their library into separate assemblies based on capability usage.

Anyhow, thanks for the feedback :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, some geolocation dead-code would probably fix the issue where the &#8216;My Location&#8217; button fails. I will give that a try in my next update.</p>
<p>I have <a href="https://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-wp7/issues/40" rel="nofollow">submitted an issue with PhoneGap</a>, long-term I think the only viable solution is for them to split up their library into separate assemblies based on capability usage.</p>
<p>Anyhow, thanks for the feedback <img src='http://www.scottlogic.co.uk/blog/colin/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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